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"W.T.R. Is For The Children Pt. II"

by Eric on July 26, 2007

Mobb Deep-Juvenile Hell

I , much like alot of folks never came across Mobb Deep’s 1993 debut on 4th & Broadway Records “Juvenile Hell” until the release of their 1995 CLASSIC “The Infamous”. Well, to be exact I never picked this album (“Juvenile Hell”) up until early 2000, just for sheer fact of owning every Mobb Deep LP. It’s kinda’ weird I guess, I’d never even heard “Hit It From The Back” or “Peer Pressure” during the Golden Era of 1993-1994, but every once in a while I’d see one of their singles featured as a “Sure Shor Single” in The Source. Hell, I even think they may have been featured as “Unsigned Hype” before they were signed! It’s hard to believe that they even put anything out before “The Infamous”….I mean, think about it…I’m sure that your introduction to Mobb Deep was “Shook Ones Pt.II” much like myself (I believe i heard it on a LOUD records sampler/EP that also had Tha LiksDAAM” on it…can’t remember the name of that damn EP though!). Nevertheless, “W.T.R.” is for the children and Havoc & Prodigy (damn, another thought..what the hell was up with two South Central Cartel affiliates owning the same moniker as the Mobb duo….only difference Prodigy was spelled Prodejehmmm) barely had hair on their chest when “Juvenile Hell” was recorded. Listening to this album now, it sounds incredibly dated even with production from Large Pro & The Bomb Squad (well at least Paul Shabazz….betcha’ you didn’t know that did ya? It’s okay I didn’t either until today….Thanks Discogs!) Admirably, even back then you could catch a glimpse of what Havoc had up his sleeve as far as beats are concerned for the future. Half of the album was produced by Mobb Deep, but if you have any inkling of Mobb Deep history you can automatically assume it was Havoc. The only track that does hold up in today’s world is the testosterone fueled “Hit It From The Back”, which actually sounds like a Large Pro assisted track but surprisingly it was laced by Mobb Deep (read: Havoc). Anyway, keen yourself to the Mobb’s starting grounds…don’t be left in the cold like most so called “Hip Hop historians” who still label “The Infamous” as Mobb’s debut….-Eric

Jamal-Last Chance, No Breaks

“1-9-to thabreaka‘-1-9-9-5, Jamal represent and keep it live”…Damn, I wish I would have never listened to “Last Chance, No Breaks” while working out this morning! Here I am, sitting with my clients discussing their goals for their financial future and all I have going through my head all day has been the above lyric from Jamal’s (Mally G) “Keep It Live” from his solo 1995 release on Rowdy Records entitled “Last Chance, No Breaks”. My wife mentioned to me the other night that if my clients knew what kind of life I lived after the suit comes off that they’d never invest with me…..hmmm, she’s probably right. I mean, we do reside in Arkansas after all…where the state colors are Camouflage & Hunter Orange! Anyway, mostly everyone knows that Jamal was one half of Illegal along with Mr. Malik who also released a self titled album that featured some production from Def Squad affiliate and Jamal “overseer” Erick Sermon. Now, as far as “Last Chance, No Breaks” is concerned….I really liked this album back in 1995 & every once in a while I revert back to a few tracks from the album, particularly “Insane Creation” f. Redman (Jesus, Easy Mo Bee killed that beat….did he drop some ish during the Golden Era or what?) and the original version of “Fades Em’ All” (produced by Redman & Rockwilder, hmmm..always thought it was Erick Sermon?). For once in my life I prefer an original to a Pete Rock remix!!! (“Fades Em’ All”). There are a few notable missteps on “Last Chance…” , the Mike Dean (Geto Boys) productions “Da Come Up” & “Don’t Trust No” fail miserably as Jamal’s attempt to “broaden his horizons” sounds best over soundscapes from his Def Squad cohorts. Surprisingly, Erick Sermon only produced two cuts that are found here, “Situation” and the ever so popular 90′s phrase “Keep It Real”. It’s good to see that Mally G is still around, as he makes an appearance on Keith Murray’s new “leak” “Rap-Murr-Phobia”….-Eric

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Anonymous July 27, 2007 at 2:24 pm

Thanks for posting that one! Do you happen to have Mr. Malik’s solo too? I’ve been looking for that one, please post it if you do…

Dan Love July 27, 2007 at 5:18 pm


I was really disappointed when I first heard Juvenile Hell. As you say, it hasn’t aged well, and there are only really a couple of tracks that get me really excited.

Still bumpin’ ‘Electrify’…

Take it easy,


Anonymous July 27, 2007 at 8:39 pm

yeah i have that EP w/ the mobb on it :-) it was called “Loud ’95 Nudder Budders EP” … had that ‘Land of the Lost” joint by the Cella Dwellaz that was on their album (at least on cassette version)…gonna have to dig out that old EP tape for nostalgia :-)

Anonymous July 27, 2007 at 8:40 pm

sorry, that Dwellaz joint WASN’T on the cassette version…had to correct myself :-)

Anonymous July 28, 2007 at 4:01 am

Back in the day everybody was feeling peer pressure by mobb deep – it was large pro production and havoc and prodigy brought it – we were all waiting for the album and then it dropped and it sucked… Once Shook ones Pt. 2 came out on Nudder Budders Mobb was huge again but we were skeptical of the album – when infamous dropped though I was like yeah this is what I knew Mobb had in them, it was on constant replay in my walkman and on my turntables for months and months, ah the bomb years…

swordfish July 28, 2007 at 1:38 pm

jamal’s album is classic.
timeless for me. one of the best
lines ever : i stick my dick in
the ground and turn the whole world around. malik an whole album?
nah. or? that would be special.

the wiz August 3, 2007 at 6:10 pm

Jamal’s CD is borderline classic. Lot of top quality cuts in there and Fades Em’ All is one of the most thorough trunk rattlers ever created. Nice to see that somebody else besides me appreciates this CD.

the wiz August 3, 2007 at 6:13 pm

Forgot to mention, Erick Sermon freaked the hell out of that Stevie Wonder Ribbon in Sky sample for Keep it Real.

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