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"It's Gotta' Be The Beats" Vol.VI….Reader Appreciation Edition (Krisch & Turtle….and Big Fonz if he woulda' got the list to me!)

by Eric on August 19, 2007

Whaddup Peoples?? Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Here in Little Rock it’s finally dipped below 100 degrees for about the first time in three weeks. Today I wanted to do a little something different. For our continuation of our “Beats” series I wanted to give a couple dedicated readers and supporters of “W.T.R.” a chance to shine and allow them to see just how easy this “bloggin‘ thing” really is! The two readers who just happened to be chatting in the C-Box the same time I was online received an invite. Now, our first visitor Krisch has been droppin‘ comments ever since “W.T.R” began a mere 6 months ago. I know for sure that Krisch knows his Hip Hop as he always seems to drop little tidbits here and there that I may have overlooked. Turtle, on the other hand is somewhat new to “W.T.R” but he stays pretty active droppin‘ comments and giving much props as well. Trust me, every blogger loves that shit…..keep in mind, we all do this for the sheer love of the music and when someone shoots you an e-mail or drops a comment in the c-box…no matter what blog it is, we love it! So, for all you 1500 readers who visit this site daily….I appreciate it and we’ll continue to keep it interesting and original (as much as we can). Oh, and one more thing…..Big Fonz, where’s my list homie???? Up next, I will drop my list along with the links for everyone’s “Top 25″. Stay up ya’ll!….-Eric

Krisch’s Top 25 Beats Of All Time

1. I Got It Made prod. Howie Tee – Special Ed
“One of those classic beats from the golden era that still sounds fresh to me, even though I got into rap four or five years after this got released.”

2. Young, Gifted And Black prod. Marley Marl – Big Daddy Kane
“While “Ain’t No Half Steppin’” would be the obvious choice, I like this one just the same. I really love this Albert King sample. Always wondered why they didn’t make it a 12”.”

3. Droppin’ Science (12” Version) prod. Marley Marl – Marley Marl feat. Craig G.
This is the kind of beat that you can’t get out of your head after hearing it for the first time.
“Classic Marley Marl production.”

4. Mahogany prod. artist – Eric B. & Rakim
“My favorite song by the R. Classic Al Green sample. This is like the blueprint for the production RZA did some years later.”

5. Streets Of New York prod. Kool G Rap, Large Professor & Anton – Kool G Rap & DJ Polo
“Early Large Pro production that delivers the perfect backdrop for G Rap’s dark tales about the streets of the Rotten Apple.”

6. They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.) prod Pete Rock – Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth
“I tried to choose some tracks that others might not have in their list, but there’s no way to not include this one. Best beat ever made. Period.”

7. Down With The King prod. Pete Rock – Run-DMC
“This was my introduction to Pete Rock when I was 12 years old. I guess I didn’t even know who he was back then, but I knew for sure that I had to bump this loud! (Just ask my neighbors).”

8. Lyrics To Go prod. artist – A Tribe Called Quest
“My favorite song from one of my favorite albums.”

9. Street Life (Return Of The Life Mix) prod. K-Def – Intelligent Hoodlum
“Takes a sample from the Minnie Riperton song that also got used on “Lyrics To Go”. Similar to the early Black Moon singles, this version is much better than the one to be found on the album.”

10. Mass Appeal prod DJ Premier – Gang Starr
Premo’s production on this one is just hypnotic. Doesn’t even matter what Guru is rapping.”

11. Memory Lane prod DJ Premier – Nas
“My favorite song from Illmatic. Always gives me chills. Simply beautiful. Gives you the feeling of sitting in a park in Queensbridge right next to Esco.”

12. Heaven & Hell prod. The RZARaekwon feat. Ghostface
“Since Dan Love took “C.R.E.A.M.” I go with my second favorite RZA production.
I love all these southern soul samples he used. Last year German songstress Joy Denalane made a great cover version of this one that also featured Rae.”

13. For Da Brothaz prod. T-Ray – Kool G Rap
“T-Ray perfectly combines these two jazz samples by Art Farmer and Idris Muhammad.
I’m really into these melancholic kind of songs.”

14. Kopfnicker prod. artist – Massive Töne
“I had to include something from Germany. This is the title track from a groundbreaking album in the history of Deutschrap. “Kopfnicker” means “headnodder” and that’s what it is!”

15. Terror prod. Masta Ace – Masta Ace Inc.
“Real threatening sample, you gonna feel the terror!”

16. Gettin’ It prod. Shorty B – Too $hort
“If this was a Top 50 there definitely would be more tracks from the left coast. Since this isn’t I have only space for one song and I have to go with this ’96 gem from Short Dog. Sorry Dr. Dre.”

17. Invocation prod. No I.D. – prod. Common
“Great opening track from my favorite Common Sense album. Always wished the song would be longer though.”

18. Bionic prod. Evidence – Defari
“Evidence’ first production on wax is also one his best work. Monotonous but real infectious. (I know this is also from the west coast, but to me this got more of an east coast feel).”

19. Exotic’s Raw prod. Large Professor – Neek The Exotic
“Classic Extra P production, had this on rotation for weeks when it came out.”

20. Sound Clash prod. Nick WizShabaam Sahdeeq
“Nothing I wouldn’t listen to while at home. But it definitely gets a party started, always have doubles of this in my crate when I spin at a club. Nick Wiz also did some great stuff with the Cella Dwellas.”

21. Queens prod. Pharoahe Monch & Lee Stone – Pharoahe Monch
“Beautiful song. Gives me the same feeling as “Memory Lane”.”

22. Get Away prod. EZ ElpeeMobb Deep
EZ Elpee is one of the most underrated producers. This track gets you in a zone, perfect for smoking weed all by yourself. (Even though I stopped doing that some time ago).”

23. Jewelz prod. Lord Finesse – O.C.
“I Like this for the same reasons as the one above. Real moody type stuff. Plus I could not make list and leave out D.I.T.C.”

24. Survival prod. KooladeMasta Ace
“Monster track courtesy of Koolade from Croatia. This beat is just incredible.”

25. Breathe prod. Just Blaze – Fabolous
“Just Blaze killed it on that one. Prior to that I wasn’t really feeling Loso, but this 12” I had to have!”

Turtle’s “Top 25 Beats Of All Time”

From Turtle:

“Eric, You have inspired me to compile and share my top 25 beat list. It was a difficult, but fun exercise. And, I wanted to let you know the thoughts of one of your readers. It is sometimes difficult to take the lyrics out of the equation and focus on the beats. Sometimes the way the MCs flow is part of the music. I also left some of my favorite producers off the list (Xtra P, Buckwild, Easy Mo Bee, Sam Sever, etc.) And, as a final thought, while compiling the list, I was listening to Minnie Riperton’s “Inside My Love”, and decided that they do not make music like they used to. Maybe that is part of the problem with hip hop today, there is not the rich, complicated (many instruments) music like there was in the past. But anyway…without further ado”:

1. “93 ‘Til Infinity” – Souls of Mischief – produced by A-Plus:
“Hands down one of the best beats ever! The combination of the bass line, then the horns, and finally the xylophone is incredible. I never get tired of this song. Great beat and lyrics.”

2. “Catch a Bad One” -Del tha Funkee Homosapian – produced by Casual:
“Great lyrics accompanied by a cello sample and deep bass line. The Hiero crew had their shit together with the beats and rhymes in the 93.”

3. “T.R.O.Y.” – artist Pete Rock and CL Smooth – produced by Pete Rock

4. ” Doomsday – MF DOOM-prod. by artist:
“It is hard to imagine you can improve the best beat on side A of BDP’s Criminal Minded. But the drums and scratching from “Poetry” are indeed updated and improved with the congas and the keyboards.”

5. “Make the Music with Your Mouth Biz/Grand Groove/(Holy Matrimony)Letter to the Firm” – artist Biz Markie/Tragedy Khadafi/Foxy Brown – produced by Marley Marl/K-Def/Trackmasterz:
“I have no idea where Marley Marl found the piano beat that is the foundation for all three songs, but it is definitely dope. I prefer the Tragedy version due to the lyrics, but all three are listed just to illustrate a great beat.”

6. “Just Don’t Bite It” – artist N.W.A – produced by Dr. Dre:
“Splash! One for the treble, two for the bass, she’s got nut all over her face.” Next you hear the deep bass scratch on the one’s and two’s and the bass line kick in. This is also when the drums start with different beats hitting the left and right speakers. Add a flute and what you are left with is one of Dre’s best productions.”

7. “The Formula” – artist The D.O.C. – produced by Dr. Dre:
“The first verse starts with a short loop and the drums and things don’t kick in until Dre says “it’s the formula” at the 42 second mark. This is when he brings in the flute and the bass line. The flute drops out at the start of the second verse and a sax is brought in. The beat during the third and the fourth verses have elements of the first and second. Finally the song ends with some a horn solo. I am not sure if it is a live or sampled. But what we end up with is a smooth track from Dre with the D.O.C. talking about how fresh he is. The only surprise is the track was not name Tha Formula.”

8. “Watch Out Now” – artist and produced by The Beatnuts:
“Guarantee you will be whistling the loop to this later in the day.

9. “Props Over Here” – artist and produced by The Beatnuts:
“Easy listening masquerading as hip hop.”

10. “Passing Me By” – artist The Pharcyde – produced by J-Swift:
“For the longest time, I thought the Jimi Hendrix sample that starts this song was a dj scratching. But now I know. Anyway, I love how each layer is slowly added at the beginning, the Hendrix sample, the keyboards with the record pops, the bass line, and finally the drums. The sax sample during the break is also dope. As well as how different layers drop out at different points in the song. Not to mention the great testimonials about unrequited love by the Pharcyde crew.”

11. “Friends/If I Ruled the World (Imagine That)/Deep Fried Frenz” – artist Whodini/Nas/MF DOOM – produced by Larry Smith/Trackmasterz/MF DOOM: I read in an interview on that Jalil created the beat and Larry Smith programmed the drum machine. He is also quoted as saying that “none of ‘em had that boom like the real Friends!!” I agree, the original is the best.”

12. “Bucktown” – artist Smif-N-Wessun – produced by Evil Dee & Mr. Walt:
” Simple, slow tempo beat with a nice jazzy sax loop.

13. “My Philosophy” – Produced, created, and innovated on a higher level by KRS-One.”

14. “Lyrics To Go” – artist A Tribe Called Quest – produced by A Tribe Called Quest (Q-Tip?):
“This song starts with what I think is a distorted guitar sample, next is a smooth keyboard, and finally the drums are scratched in. I love the scratching, it is a nice touch. But my favorite part is the keyboard sample from Minnie Riperton’s “Inside My Love”, a song I first heard on the Jackie Brown Soundtrack. That song is a slow soul ballad and a great song. But the amazing thing is the sample used in “Lyrics To Go” is only played for about 15 seconds towards the end of that song. It is incredible that someone can loop 15 seconds of a song, add some drums, scratching, etc. and make a completely new song. Now that is hip-hop.”

15. “Bonus Track” – artist and produced by KMD:
“This is the same beat used in “Fuck Wit Ya Head”, also on the Black Bastards album. Even though I first heard this a few years ago (due to the history of the album), hearing this song takes me back to 93. It is like my mind is playing tricks on me. I always wonder what would have happened if the album had a proper release. I remember KMD from 3rd Bass and I remember seeing Mr. Hood in the record stores, but I never picked it up. It is quite possible that I could have slept on this also.”

16. “Headbanger” – artist EPMD featuring K-Solo and Redman – produced by EPMD: Not sure is this the greatest EPMD beat of all time. But the combination of EPMD, K-Solo, and Redman and the hype beat compliment each other well. The Puba “Yeah, head crack, head crack” vocal sample is a nice touch also.”

17. “Pass the Gat/What Cool Breezes Do” – artist and produced by Brand Nubian/Digable Planets:
“This choice is actually a cop out and my way of getting both Brand Nubian and Digable Planets on my list. Both songs use the same horn sample on the break. I am not sure who unearthed this beat first because the albums came out around the same time in 92 (at least I bought them around the same time). This was a time before everyone used the “hot” producer, and both groups produced solid beats.”

18. “The Illest Brother” – artist Gang Starr – produced by DJ Premier:
“This beat is hard with the piano, bass, and horn. But the thing about this beat that leaves me wanting more is the Richard Pryor routine at the end. I would love to hear a complete comedy album with a Preemo beat in the background.”

19. “Got it Made” – artist Special Ed – produced by Hit Man Howie Tee:
“Duh dump, duh dump, I got it made.”

20. Way We Swing/The Way We Swing (Remix) – artist Digital Underground – produced by Shock
” Shock G basically rips Jimi Hendrix’s “Who Knows?” and adds a drum track and a little turntable action. I guess you can say I can’t hear Hendrix.”

21. “Iron Maiden” – artist Ghostface Killah featuring Raekwon & Cappadonna – produced by The RZA:
“This beat is crazy with the sirens and bass line. But my favorite part is the James Bond sounding guitar sample. I would expect that guitar sample from Diamond D, not The RZA.”

22. “Eye Know” – artist De La Soul – produced by Prince Paul:
“This is one well produced song that uses Steely Dan’s “Peg.” I am very familiar with “Peg” since it was on one of my K-Tel albums back in the day and the portion of the song that is sample is very recognizable. Even with that, the way Prince Paul brings in the other horns, whistle, etc., all the samples in the song mesh so well that the music sounds like it was composed for Eye Know.”

23. “K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid)” – artist Diamond & the Psychotic Neurotics – produced by Diamond D co-produced by Q-Tip:
“The highlight of this beat is the horns and Lord Jamar vocal sample, “took the leer jet, don’t fear yet” on the break.”

24. “Gangsta Bitch” – artist Apache – produced by A Tribe Called Quest:
“This song has everything, nice bass line, horns, and scratching. My favorite part is when the beat drops and Apache says “puffin’ on a blunt, sippin’ on a Heineken.”

25. “Ain’t No Future In Yo Frontin’” – artist MC Breed – produced by MC Breed, Herman Lang, and S. Harris: “This beat is dope. I believe it uses a “Funky Worm” sample by the Ohio Players. It is the only solo MC Breed song I have any interest in.”

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turtle August 19, 2007 at 9:29 pm

Thanks for the big up, Eric.

Big Fonz August 19, 2007 at 10:29 pm

Damn, these are good lists. I’m gonna have to step my game up. As soon as I’m done, I’ll send it in.

barnezy August 20, 2007 at 12:04 am

… loving these posts

AaronM August 20, 2007 at 1:03 am

These are great. Get some more reader lists. I’d love to contribute to this.

Jaz August 20, 2007 at 1:32 am

Yeah these lists are dope but I am mad pleased that I am not alone in having ‘The Illest Brother’ and ‘K.I.S.S.’ in my top 25.

Keep them going Eric

Hugo the Dude August 20, 2007 at 10:28 am

great lists! this is a great idea and graet reading!

turtle, i knew someone would mention “grand groove” piano beat from k-def & marley marl, one of my fav of all time also.. cormega actually rhymed over that piano beat to, i think the song was called “true love”.. i prefer that version to bix and foxy’s. tragedy’s is my fav!

Dart Adams August 20, 2007 at 8:03 pm

I love seeing so many of my favorite joints ever appearing on these lists. Great work.


Anonymous August 20, 2007 at 8:58 pm

somebody help me out…i know the art farmer sample for G Rap’s ’4 Da Brothaz,’ but what’s the Idris Muhammad sample?

Krisch August 20, 2007 at 9:00 pm

It’s called “Power Of Soul” from the LP of the same name

turtle August 21, 2007 at 12:39 am

I was listening to Slow Down today and realized that it is the Derick X (I forgot, I meant Sadat) vocal sample that is used in the Headbanger. Sometimes Sadat and Puba sound similiar.

M.Dot. August 21, 2007 at 7:12 am

fuck fuck fuck.

I started a top 10 beats of all time post earlier this summer.

**kicks self.

Club Med August 23, 2007 at 5:34 am

Sup Fonz and other folks! I see yall doing yall thing on here. I’ll drop my top 5 real quick.

1.Marvel-Prod. Rza Ghostface Killah-Ironman
2.Straberry- Prod. Rza Ghostafce-Bulletproof Wallets
3.Bucktown- Prod. Beatminerz Smiff n Wessun
4.Wrong Side of the Tracks- Prod. T-Ray and the Artifacts- The Artifacts
5.I’m Bout It- Prod. Beats By the Pound. Tru- Tru 2 Da Game

Keep hip hop alive.

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